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  • Sid
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    A PPS member (a friend) and I are entering into an exchange agreement. We know the value of his item but both of us are stumped as far as a fair value for the BNG wax postal bag seals as shown below. One is of Woodlarks and the other Baniara. Any help with valuation would be greatly appreciated.
    Sid

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  • Mr A J
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    The number of postal items identified from Baniara can be counted on one hand, so it surprises me the need for a postal bag seal. In saying that, Roger Lee states mail from Baniara was probably bagged up (with possible use of a wax seal) and processed at Samarai or Buna Bay.
    Obviously rare, but as to value…….no idea!
    It is also possible a wax seal example could also have been supplied per favour at a later time.

  • Kainnikanada
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    I believe the two examples you’ve posted are identical to the non-contemporaneous strikes provided me in 1981 by a former District officer who was stationed in Papua New Guinea post WWII. He supplied me with multiple strikes of the Woodlarks B.N.G. and Baniara P-N.G. seals in sealing wax I supplied him.

    Note the “P-N.G.” designation of the Baniara seal – was this supplied to some location post 1952?

    The two scans I’ve uploaded do not appear when I submit this post.

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    • Sid
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      The seals/wax impressions I have came from a person who lived on Woodlarks
      post WWII. I never felt that these were from the 1900’s era as they appear
      too new and the paper is not that old.

      Kainnikanada kindly replied to my query as shown below:-
      “I believe the two examples you’ve posted are identical to the
      non-contemporaneous strikes provided me in 1981 by a former District
      officer who was stationed in Papua New Guinea post WWII. He supplied me
      with multiple strikes of the Woodlarks B.N.G. and Baniara P-N.G. seals in
      sealing wax I supplied him.” One thing for sure Kainnikanada’s scans show
      seals identical to mine.

      Tony Griffin backs this all up. He states ” I understand that some BNG
      mailbag seal implements were found in a post office safe and that gave rise
      to the contemporaneous usage seen on Sid’s examples.”

      Lee states that “Modern impressions are in deep red/black wax” as these.
      So have we established that these are copies of the original seals that
      were used. Not forgeries or fakes. Shame as I collect forgeries.
      .
      But back to my original question, Value? However it appears that Pheonix feel they are worth something:-
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      Pheonix Lot 1227:Tamata: ‘POST OFFICE/CROWN/TAMATA’ impression in deep red
      wax, some minor cracking & small segment missing at right. Ex John
      Nicholson who believed the seal was discovered in a safe at Abau Distict
      Office around 1955. Buy it now $120.

      Many thanks to all who helped.

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